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Oh to undo what’s been done in “1000 Years”

I’m posting an email (once upon a time people actually communicated this way) from a friend who was answering a question I asked about the lyrics of one of his songs which was compelling and provocative (in a good way). This friend was the lead singer of my favorite band, Shaking Tree. The shows his band put on were second to none and he is a lyrical genius. Unfortunately his band is no longer touring because as he put it, “They had to grow up and get real jobs.” so he is now in law school…whether or not becoming a lawyer is a real job or not is beside the point. 😉 This email is from a few years back, but still very relevant to this day about how the wider world views religion and Christians. Note: the way most view Jesus is normally very different than how most view Christians. I disagree with some parts and agree with most parts of the email but I’m not posting this to refute, or condone, but to allow the readers of my blog to consider the truths which Dain speaks of and to see how you can see God in Dain. I hope he’s strumming on his guitar and we’re throwing back beers together just like in college whenever we both get to the big Kansas in the sky. {I have corrected spelling so as not to be distracting from the message}

“Hey Derek,

About “1000 Years”…I really don’t like to get into my own views about Christianity and the church too much. In matters concerning faith I find that sometimes the things that one person finds ridiculous, is the core to someone elses spiritual perspective. As someone whose views, in spiritual matters, are not common place in main stream society, I recognize that we all walk down different paths externally and internally to find answers regarding our souls and our purpose. Because of that, I’m not interested in trying to completely uproot anyone’s internal beliefs. As a songwriter I’m just as concerned about what people think when they hear a song than what I am actually writing about. The meaning of most songs should change according to who is listening and what personal experiences the song reminds them of.

All that being said, my views about “1000 Years” have stayed consistent since I first wrote the song. I never intended for this song to be speaking about just religious leaders, but anyone who uses a doctrine that is intended to have absolute truths (the Bible, the Koran, Mein Kampf) with no room to compromise or adjust any principle, for political gain and control of a population.

I guess I wasn’t trying to strike a loud chord with this song, down with religion or anything like that, but just to make people think. Not about religion per se but about religion and politics. As someone who has read the Bible I would be extremely frightened if we, as a country, decided to prepare for the prophecies of Revelations. Also, what I see now is a political movement to christianize our schools, government, and the way law is decided and practiced. I have seen a few church leaders speak out against this fundamentalist movement, but I don’t see it as being effective. The fundamentalist/conservatives yell much louder. Like the song says (truth lacks the convictions of passionate lies) and the Bible is full of contradictions. The ability for debate is slowly eroding in this country because the argument that, “Jesus said…” can and has overridden many peoples sense of humanity and reason, especially in the great state of Kansas and to an extent in our policy in the middle east. This is not to say that religious concerns cannot be valid in a democracy, but with the spread of sexually transmitted diseases, the complexity of terrorism, individual rights and religions age-old bigotry towards science (and in many cases life saving science) I don’t see how theses issues can be solved by a more moderate form of christianity without disregarding part of the message that the bible promotes in the same way the conservative/fundamentalist do. I hope that the moderates are able to combat this path that we seem to be heading in.

Anyway, in a nutshell this is what goes on in my head. I hope I didn’t say anything offensive because I’m never really sure where people are coming from and outside of the political arena I’m extremely supportive of others’ beliefs even if they don’t even closely connect with my own. The cool things about music is that once the song is out of the writer’s hands, its meaning becomes the listeners regardless of the writer’s intention. I’m always a little reluctant to talk about songs because of this. The last thing I want to do is ruin a song for someone. Anyway–I’ll see you on Thursday –take care.   — Dain

This is me again.  Below are the lyrics of “1000 Years” to see what Dain is talking about in the description of his views on religion; if you want to hear the song, just let me know – it’s phenomenal.

Shepherds in Bethlehem wait for him to be born, what will man do in his name? They will call him a god, they will look for the marks, every free soul there will pay.

Whispers of innocence drowned out in tears, everyone must choose a side, truth lacks conviction of passionate lies, the sin is too fragile, to hurt us inside!

1000 die by some man’s foolish pride, 1000 lost to God and all his lies, 1000 loaves soon replaced by fear, it hasn’t changed in 1000 years. 1000 screams lost within the air, 1000 lives buried in the sand, 1000 mommas soon replaced by tears, it has changed within 1000 years.

Politicians and preachers corrupt from inside, ask us to lay down like lambs. They will say they’re for love they will talk of compassion, question ’em and they skate along.

Whispers of innocence drowned out in tears, everyone must choose a side, truth lacks conviction of passionate lies, the sin is too fragile, to hurt us inside!”

1000 die by some man’s foolish pride, 1000 lost to God and all his lies, 1000 loaves soon replaced by fear, hasn’t changed in 1000 years. 1000 screams lost within the air, 1000 lives buried in the sand, 1000 mommas soon replaced by tears, it has changed within 1000 years.

Whispers of innocence drowned out in tears, everyone must choose a side, truth lacks conviction of passionate lies, the sin is too fragile, to hurt us inside!”

1000 die by some man’s foolish pride, 1000 lost to God and all his lies, 1000 loaves soon replaced by fear, hasn’t changed in 1000 years. 1000 screams lost within the air, 1000 lives buried in the sand, 1000 mommas soon replaced by tears, it has changed within 1000 years.

Later this week I’ll be upgrading my space to include the songs, but until then you can check out: Dain and Dain on myspace You can buy some of his music on iTunes, unfortunately you can’t buy my two favorite songs of his, “Complications” (that I actually was able to record with him!) and “1000 Years”. But again, I have both of these if you want to hear them.

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Point/Counterpoint Series at Eikon Church

Come join us tomorrow night at Eikon Church (6pm, corner of R Street and University).  We’ll hear two points of view on the topic of homosexuality. We’ll hear from someone who believes it’s not a sin and also from someone who believes it is a sin. It’s going to be a great evening that allows for discussion of the space between.

Point/Counterpoint

 
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More Volatile Than Joan Rivers Standing too Close to a Microwave

Here’s a great blog-post from Jonathan McIntosh on the topic of homosexuality.  This pretty much nails it on the head with what I believe on this super-sensitive and divisive topic.  McIntosh also speaks to what I’ve reiterated in the past about homosexual acts being the same as any other sin but the religious right (I should probably clarify that by saying some fundamentalists – I’m technically part of the religious right…I digress) glorifies/magnifies it above other sins (lust, tax evasion, deceit, etc) and authentic love towards the homosexual community gets lost and replaced with hardly being tolerant.  I’m not even sure I like the act of being “tolerant” because tolerating also loses authentic love in it’s sights – “tolerating” something in my opinion is like a dog tolerating a toddler pulling on it’s tail; it’s hardly love…I’ll come back to that at some point later.

How Paul Addressed Homosexuality

 
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Transforming Our Faith

Ok, so I tried to link to it but I think the fact that I fixed one thing on my blog (displaying my blogroll) in one night meets my quota for doing a successful application on my blog.  So here’s the link placed manually.

Ryan Byrd On McLaren \”New Kind of Christianity\”

 
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Posted by on April 1, 2010 in Uncategorized